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Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby padmaja2 Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:00 pm

Hi,

I came across this question in one of the PMP practice sets.
Wanted to know the answer to this question. I thought that the answer must be 78, since there are 12 stakeholders + the project manager making n as 13. However, the solution mentioned that the answer is 66 by considering only 12 stakeholders.
Formula = n(n-1)/2

Am I missing something in my understanding here?

Thanks.
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby santanuded Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:05 pm

This is a confusion area for me tooo.. WHETHER TO ADD THE PM SEPARATELY OR NOT?
Saket (and any other PMP Expert) - Request you to pls explain this with some examples.
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby manishpn Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:12 pm

Based on my observations (No standard rule as the language in questions is not always straight forward )

when
question asks how many channels project will have - Include PM
Question mentions - How many communication channels your team has - Exclude PM
Question mentions - X members including PM - Dont add PM to count
Question asks: How many channels will PM (Not project) have dont include PM

Again there is no standard rule, and challenge is when you have both answers in options, including and excluding PM in count.
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby Rawadh Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:02 am

Manish;
When you say "include PM"; you mean add 1 to the count? And when you say exclude you mean he is already part of the count and no need to add him separately?
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby manishpn Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:45 am

yes correct
do remember this is based on my observations and inputs from students who appeared for exam
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby Vijayasenthil Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:39 am

Hi Manish,
But in above question there is no such clue whether to include or exclude PM while counting the factor "n"

How to tackle such questions ? :(

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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby manishpn Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:19 pm

please read the question its asking how many comm channel you (PM) have, you need to exlcude PM from calculations
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby rameshsa@yahoo.com Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:01 am

You have five people working on your team, a sponsor within your company, and a client, all of
whom need to be kept informed of your project’s progress. How many lines of communication are
there?
A. 28
B. 21
C. 19
D. 31

Manish here both A and B are with PM and Without PM respectively...
it says You (1) have 5 people working on your team ...

I think we need to think like that when we have both anwers :roll:
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby EsakkiMuthu Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:19 am

rameshsa@yahoo.com wrote:You have five people working on your team, a sponsor within your company, and a client, all of
whom need to be kept informed of your project’s progress. How many lines of communication are
there?
A. 28
B. 21
C. 19
D. 31

Manish here both A and B are with PM and Without PM respectively...
it says You (1) have 5 people working on your team ...

I think we need to think like that when we have both anwers :roll:



I go for A = 28
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby manishpn Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:33 am

rameshsa@yahoo.com wrote:You have five people working on your team, a sponsor within your company, and a client, all of
whom need to be kept informed of your project’s progress. How many lines of communication are
there?
A. 28
B. 21
C. 19
D. 31

Manish here both A and B are with PM and Without PM respectively...
it says You (1) have 5 people working on your team ...

I think we need to think like that when we have both answers :roll:


This one is tricky I agree, at the start it says You have , however the question ask how many communication lines are there and not how many communications line do you have,
I would probably still not include PM based on the start of the question which says 'you have'
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby Vijayasenthil Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:35 pm

I would go for A (21) as the question has Key Word Team . as per PMBOK team is inclusive of Project Manager , project management team & Project team members who work ,so in this particular question all inclusive 5

hence 5+1 sponcer +1 client.

Let me know my understanding is correct & answer to ?

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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby Rawadh Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:47 pm

I have spoken to different people regarding these doubts. I think when they mention sakeholders or project team that means the project manager is included and no need to add him to the count
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby Vijayasenthil Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:35 am

Hello Ramesh

What's the answer for the question you have asked whether it is A or B .

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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby rameshsa@yahoo.com Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:09 am

A.
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Re: Doubt on communication channel calculation

Postby Mahfuz Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:33 pm

Ramesh,
Good luck with your exam. Can't wait to see your Lesson learned!

Keep up your hard work!
Kind regards,
Mahfuz Rahman ,PMP

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