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Definition of Done on User stories

Postby ragavendrak Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:14 pm

An Agile team is formed to deliver an E-commerce website. The team has Defined the Definition of Done and acceptance criteria for the User stories. During the iteration team also added new acceptance criteria to the user stories. But, when the team showed the demo to the customer at the end of the iteration, the customer rejected the whole work. What could be the reason for this situation?

1.The iterative delivery did not lead to a Minimum Marketable Feature

2.Scope of user stories did not refine during the iterations

3.Team did not work with customer to write explicit statements to satisfy the use of story

4.Team did not comply the Definition of Done

Ans is Option 1.

Can you please clarify why can't be Option 3 ..

Thanks in advance..
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Re: Definition of Done on User stories

Postby seema.sonkiya Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:59 am

Option 2: .Scope of user stories did not refine during the iterations - This answer is not valid because in the question it is clearly mentioned:

During the iteration team also added new acceptance criteria to the user stories.

Option 3: Team did not work with customer to write explicit statements to satisfy the use of story - This is not valid because in the question it is clearly said that team worked with customer:
During the iteration team also added new acceptance criteria to the user stories.

Now you can say that where it is written that team involved customer? Anawer lies in the concept of how the acceptance criteria are written. Acceptance criteria are the detailing of a user story and own either by the customer or product owner. Without explicit mention of that team did not involve customer, we cannot assume it, because we know how accpetance criterias are written.




Option 4: Team did not comply the Definition of Done - It is nowhere written that team did not comply DoD

Option - 1: 1.The iterative delivery did not lead to a Minimum Marketable Feature - The question has cleanly mentioned the collaboration between the customer for the scope of user stories, but not for the MMF. This is the best answer after analyzing rationale behind other options.

Be careful in choosing the best answer, you need to relate each option with the question situation to choose the right one.
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Re: Definition of Done on User stories

Postby samkaran1099 Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:30 pm

In the question it states that the "team defined DOD and acceptance criteria", it does not explicitly mention that the customer/owner was involved. Additionally, can you explain how the MMF is related to the rejecting the deliverable at the end of a sprint? Shouldnt the MMF be defined during initial project planning/release planning and the team will choose backlog items based on what is prioritized by the PO? Additionally, if the goal of the iteration was to deliver a MMF, shouldn't it mean that the team didn't meet the DOD? How can a team not deliver a MMF if that is the scope of the iteration and still meet the DOD for the backlog items?
Your clarification would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Definition of Done on User stories

Postby seema.sonkiya Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:00 am

This is a good debatable question :-) I appreciate that you raised this point.

We can clearly eliminate option B, and D. Now the debate is between Option A and C. These are both good options to select and we need to use details of concepts of DoD, Acceptance Criteria and MMF together. All are the gray areas and need to understand carefully.

Here the question is clearly mentioning that team has DoD. And also acceptance criteria s are emerging - which can not be assumed without customer involvement. Getting agreement on MMF is also a collaboration activity and sometimes need to be revisited to get the real understanding from new information we get during the project. Sometimes the customer may agree on features, but when they see it, they may reject if we are not collaborating for MMF also.

The Key point I picked here: Collaboration for DoD and Acceptance criteria is present in the question but the continuous collaboration for MMF is not there. It is a common scenario in real life where team and customer lack the clear understanding of MMF, and they need to work on information uncovering tools to get clarity on it.
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Re: Definition of Done on User stories

Postby samkaran1099 Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:01 pm

Thanks for the response.
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Re: Definition of Done on User stories

Postby ashwineec Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:27 pm

If it had been mentioned in the question that we are in closer iteration towards release, MMF is valid point. But we may be at initial iterations and team may have done features which are not directly in MMF but dependent or mix of MMF and other features.
My point is in itertaion review work cannot be rejected because it doesnt lead to MMF.
Also when team did sprint planning, they must have picked up top prio backlog items and PO knew that. So how can work get rejected after iteration is done.
Please clarify gaps in understanding if any.
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Re: Definition of Done on User stories

Postby saket Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:35 pm

I agree with all your comments , in exam you may get sometime pre mature questions and some of them are like not yet as agile... so if i look at options , i can see A may look the only reason since other are verified as part of Done, if not Done we would have not even demoed the increment.
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